Jesse Jackson and Josie Johnson have been prominent civil rights leaders since 1960 and before — and they see change happening. 'The marchers are full of hope,' says Jackson. 'They believe something can happen. On the move, we're not going backwards.'
Jeff Haynes/AFP via Getty Images; Jerry Holt/Star Tribune via Getty ImagesThe Rev. Jesse Jackson and Josie Johnson.Once again this weekend, protesters filled the streets in cities nationwide, rallying against police violence and chanting the name of George Floyd.
To some who remember the civil rights movement of the 1950s and '60s, the moment feels familiar. They've compared the demonstrations that have spread since video emerged of a Minneapolis police officer kneeling on Floyd's neck for nearly nine minutes to theYet having seen too much, both found hopeful signs in recent days: the number of white people who marched with people of color; the political power that people of color wield today; and even the conduct of police.
For more perspective on this moment, NPR spoke with Jackson and Johnson for their reflections on the parallels between 1968 and today. Here are excerpts from theirWhat do you think when people see an incident like the death of George Floyd and they say nothing has changed in America?To see white and black America rise up and fight back, to see people marching in London and France, that's progress.That is progress. And we've lived long enough to try to be hopeful again. ...
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