At the end of production for AndJustLikeThat Season 1, Cynthia Nixon gave Sara Ramírez a wrap gift with a card that read, “Let’s see all the ways they come up with to torture us if we get picked up for a second season.”
…,” HBO Max’s successful revival of “Sex and the City,” Che Diaz became the most visible queer character on TV. We’ll get to why in a second. But for those who love Che, do not fear. Sara Ramírez, the nonbinary actor who plays the nonbinary podcaster, comedian and aspiring sitcom star who falls in love with Miranda Hobbes and breaks up her marriage, will be back on the second season of “And Just Like That …” with an even more robust storyline.
Months later, King still can’t believe the reaction. “My friend Gregg Araki, he’s a filmmaker, said to me, ‘How does it feel to have created the most polarizing character in all 5,000 shows that are on TV?’” When King asked him to clarify, Araki cited outrageous characters currently on television such as “Vikings who are drinking children’s blood” and so on.
Nixon — who says she suggested Ramírez to King after admiring their work for years — is confused about the seismic reaction to the character. “I don’t know what to make of it,” she says. “I mean, I think you’ve got a lot of marriage-police people out there.” Nixon also wonders whether the explosion was because the Miranda-Che relationship is so different from TV’s usual “girl-on-girl action that people across the board think is really sexy.
As a young New York-based actor, Ramírez was watching “Sex and the City” then, and was a fan: “I was falling in love with New York City, and the show only made me fall in love with the city more.” Nixon — who came out publicly in 2004, and has been married to Christine Marinoni since 2012 — says during the early stages of planning “And Just Like That …” King asked her a key question: “He was like, ‘Do you want Miranda to be queer or not?’ I was like, ‘Sure, why not!’”
“If you’re going to get caught up in this character,” Ramírez says, “at least learn about how people like Che Diaz are currently trying to survive escalating attacks on our community.” “She came back and said, ‘We’re creating a role for this extraordinary human,’” Vernoff says. “And went on and on about Sara’s talent. Then, Callie was born.”Late in the show’s second season, Callie, an orthopedic surgeon, was introduced as a love interest for George O’Malley . In the fourth season, Ramírez approached Rhimes with a new idea: “I wanted to pursue a storyline where Callie would discover that she was attracted to women as well as men.” Rhimes was game.
So they kept their hair long: “But when I took my break, I thought, ‘Oh, what better way to reintroduce myself to myself than to actually do something I’ve been wanting to do for years?’” They vehemently disagree that it did — or does now. “The real risk for me was more about career,” Ramírez says. “But in terms of how it impacts the world, it did not feel radical at all.”The early months of the pandemic were tough for Ramírez. So much so that in May 2020, they found themselves contemplating suicide late one night. “I remember calling the National Suicide Hotline for the very first time,” they say quietly.
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