Trump White House staff detail 'heated' Jan. 6 call with Pence
Former White House staffers described a “heated” Jan. 6, 2021, call between President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence in footage shown Thursday by the select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.
Former Pence counsel Greg Jacob testified that on the morning of Jan. 6, he, his Chief of Staff Marc Short, Communications Director Devin O’Malley and Legislative Affairs Director Chris Hodgson went to the vice president’s residence. Herschmann said he could hear only the president’s side of the conversation. While it began with a calm tone, he said, it “became heated,” a term Ivanka Trump also used to describe the conversation.
Gen. Keith Kellogg, Pence’s former national security advisor, said he remembered hearing about Trump telling Pence something to the effect of, “You’re not tough enough to make the call.”
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