Republican Gov. Spencer Cox is no fan of Trump — or the party’s Never-Trumpers.
Incumbent Gov. Spencer Cox speaks during Utah's gubernatorial GOP primary debate on June 11 in Salt Lake City. | Pool photo by Isaac HaleIt’s nearly impossible to find a Republican politician who can stand against Donald Trump and still hold on to their political viability. But one — perhaps the only one — is Utah Gov. Spencer Cox.after cruising to victory against a far-right challenger in this week’s GOP primary.
Cox has built a growing profile outside of Utah, mostly through his work as chair of the National Governors Association, which has pushed Cox’s signature initiative: “Disagree Better,” a public service campaign to try to depolarize politics. I’m currently the chair of the National Governors Association, and every chair has an initiative. And as I was thinking through some of the traditional things that we would work on — the cost of health care, the cost of housing in our country, energy policy, those types of things — I just realized that we can’t solve any of the biggest issues if we all hate each other.
You know, “He’s a farm kid from Utah,” and “He’s a city kid from Maryland.” And while we disagree on lots of things, we’re both fathers. We both love college basketball. We’re both Americans. I’m curious about the story of the toast to Biden. Did the president talk to you about that afterwards? All of the polling suggests that Trump is doing very well. It doesn’t seem like anything’s moving people. I think this is so baked. Either you support him or you don’t. By now, I don’t know what new revelations are going to come out. I don’t know that new court cases are going to do anything to change that. President Biden is not getting any younger. I think that’s a real problem. You could try to dismiss it. And certainly his supporters do, but that’s not going away. We all experience it.
That’s interesting. I think that’s important for people to know. You don’t self-identify with that group. But I don’t know that they’re changing anybody’s minds. I don’t think they’re changing hearts and minds at all. I think they’ve lumped everybody who supports Trump into being just like Trump instead of trying to understand them and get to know them and have some sympathy, some empathy and trying to help them and our party be better. And for me, that’s the biggest issue.
I care deeply — these are my people. I live in coal country. So many of my friends’ dads and my friends themselves and some family members have worked in the coal mines. As those coal mines are shutting down, the old economy is leaving. But the new economy hasn’t come yet. The promises that have been made by both political parties for years have never come to fruition. And people are feeling isolated.
Look, Trump was president before — we made it. A lot of people said we couldn’t survive four years of Joe Biden, and here we are. Hasn’t been great. But at the end of the day, we’re resilient people. And we will get through the next four years. It’s definitely an interesting time in the Republican Party, both in Utah and outside of Utah. But it’s been well-documented that Utah’s a little different when it comes to our Republican Party politics. Maybe a little bit of a throwback to the Reagan-era Republican Party. Certainly there are tensions within that party here in the state of Utah between the Trump Republicans and the more historically conservative Republicans that we’re used to.
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