'I've just always seen space as the next frontier.'
Space.com: Yeah, and just showing how amazing these landscapes are — that has to help. I mean, there are a lot of people who aren't going to realize that much of the [2009 Pixar] movie"Up" was based on these beautiful tepui vistas that actually exist.Yeah. It's funny how so many seemingly fictional landscapes are real; you just have to travel to go find them.It's a lot more meaningful in a lot of ways.
Honestly, it's changed the whole way I look at climbing trips, because I'm kind of like,"I should do every trip like this in the future." It made me realize that, for scientists, the challenge is getting the funding just to go to the places to begin with, whereas for an adventurer — a climber or whatever — it's not that hard. I mean, it's still not easy to get the trips funded.
Space.com: Do you think that's something that's been sort of gradually dawning on you as you've done more climbs and gotten a little older and your priorities have shifted a little bit? Or is that something that just jumped out at you after this expedition?Maybe a little bit. Part of that might be aging and realizing that I should be doing something slightly more useful, contributing to something slightly more meaningful.
I think my big takeaway was just the realization that we have so much to learn about these areas, and that there's so much opportunity to learn. It was just a pleasure to be involved in the trip and contribute in a helpful way. Space.com: And we're coming up on Earth Day, which is a good opportunity to remind us all that we have so much to protect, and we don't have a lot of time to do it.And maybe a good opportunity to remind people that there are always things that you can do to help in some way. I'm just a rock climber, and yet we still helped Bruce find all these species. I never would have thought that I'd be contributing to biology in that way.
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