.hels speaks with the mountain_goats front man John Darnielle about art as labor, the beauty of Chaucer, and, more or less, the secret to happiness.
In pretty much my adult life, yeah. I mean, I started my “adult life” late, because I was a nurse before. But in my Mountain Goats life, yeah. It was really bad in a lot of ways. For one, you worry about money, because this is what I do for a living, and sales of records doesn’t make it up, although our fans were incredibly good to us during the downtime. At first you go, Wow, I’m home for three months, and I’m sleeping well—it’s great. But then I miss my band, and I miss playing.
What it took, for me, was people reminding me of the role of the Church in the civil-rights movement. And then you look at that, and you look at the tradition of charity in the Jewish tradition and the Islamic tradition. You can dwell on the Inquisition; there’s plenty of terrible stuff being done in the name of Christianity, all the way to today, but it’s really a matter of focus. And you can’t weigh it, either—only God could weigh things like that.
“Sam Hall,” by Johnny Cash! “My name, it is Sam Hall, Sam Hall. My name, it is Sam Hall, and I hate you, one and all. I hate you, one and all. God damn your eyes.”I think it’s because I’m a writer of fiction. The second people start writing fiction, that’s what they do.
Playing around with conceits and tropes are key to genre writing. “Devil House” is about true crime, and your previous novels have dealt with role-playing games and indie videos. You write songs that are about death metal, or about punk, even though the songs themselves arguably aren’t death metal or punk songs. What’s the draw of exploring these genres and subcultures?
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