Host of 'No One is Coming to Save Us' delves deep into child care crisis

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Host of 'No One is Coming to Save Us' delves deep into child care crisis
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ICYMI Midday Edition: The podcast 'No One is Coming to Save Us' digs into the history of child care and what could be done to heal the industry.

Children sit in a circle at Liberty Winn's home childcare center in Carlsbad, May 18, 2022.

The child care industry was already on the edge, and then COVID made it even harder with shutdowns, new rules and health concerns. Were you already working on this show when COVID started?I think we did get lucky with the timing of the release of the show. It was May 2021, and parents across the country were — I was going to say — at their breaking point, but they were just beyond it in a place of total pain, and that had turned into an anger.

Secondly, I think it's really interesting — I did not know this — that the U.S. during World War II created incredible child care and early education, I call them pop-ups now, but all the men were going off to war. So a few smart people said these women who are now going to work to support the war effort, they will need help taking care of their children. And it was high quality. It was smart people.

You also talk on the first season about a historic stigma around child care, where the women who needed it were lower-income and maybe had husbands who couldn’t work. Is that stigma still at play today?I think the stigma has a lot of elements that go into it. So, you look at the obsession with material wealth in our country. I mean, I remember on an ill-fated foray into law, I was a paralegal, and my lawyer that I worked for was sending presentations from labor, she was about to have her baby.

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