On this 'Face the Nation' broadcast, Sen. Bernie Sanders and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries join Margaret Brennan.
On this 'Face the Nation' broadcast, moderated by Margaret Brennan: Sen. Bernie Sanders, Independent of VermontHouse Minority Leader Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, Democrat of New YorkSens. Mark Warner, Democrat of Virginia, and Marco Rubio, Republican of FloridaIBM vice chairman Gary Cohn Click here to browse full transcripts of 'Face the Nation.'
He must, he must pay more attention to the innocent lives being lost as a consequence of the actions taken. He's hurting – in my view, he's hurting Israel more than helping Israel. And I think it's a big mistake. So I want to see a cease-fire. Well, I have spoken to people very high up in his administration. Here's the bottom line, Margaret. What we are seeing in Gaza today is literally an unprecedented crisis. It's not just that 30,000 people, two- thirds of whom are women and children, have already been killed. We are looking at the possibility of hundreds of thousands of children starving to death.The United States of America cannot be complicit in this mass slaughter of children.
Well, I think it is the right thing to do. You can't beg Netanyahu. You got to tell him, if you want any money, you got to change your policy. Allow the trucks to come in to feed their children. And, by the way, in terms of politics… Look, what you have – what you need right now is a cease-fire tomorrow, so that the trucks, the massive amount of humanitarian aid can come in to feed the people who are starving.But you have Hamas is dedicated to destroying Israel. You have the Netanyahu – Netanyahu government, which is dedicated to destroy Hamas.
… what we've got to exactly do. Look, Margaret, 1.7 million Palestinians, 80 percent of their population, have been driven from their homes and displaced. Many of them end up in Rafah. To go in there and to displace them again and start a major military campaign would be an unmitigated disaster. So, my view is, of course, we cannot support an attack of that kind on Rafah. Bottom line is, though, Netanyahu has got to be told, no more money for his war machine unless there is humanitarian aid coming in to feed the people.
So I am, in short… Well, no, I'm not supporting Mr. Trump. No, I… Thank you. Should it stay? President Biden's reviewing whether to keep those troops in Iraq in the same numbers. President Biden wants to establish a port in Gaza to try to bring humanitarian aid in. It's not exactly clear the cost, the U.S. military role. Do you think that is a good decision?
Well, I will just respond personally. I don't know what he's talking about, because how does Hamas get food? Hamas does not have an economy. Hamas does – Hamas – everything Hamas gets comes from abroad, from Iranians and from what they take. I think the evidence is in place that they have existed as an organization without any means of generating revenue, other than what they are able to capture from others. That's just common sense.
… was us trying to take out this tunnel network, could we do it quicker, more efficiently? And, candidly, the answer was, maybe we could be a bit faster, but when Hamas is gruesomely holding the hostages to prevent some of the takeout of the tunnels, this is one of the lessons.This and I think the lesson of drones in – in Ukraine are two of the things in terms of military doctrine I think that we're going to have to learn from both of these conflicts.
Meeting with – meeting with folks in Israel, in the military community, in the intelligence community, the idea that you're going to eliminate every Hamas fighter, I don't think is a realistic goal. We asked the senators what the greatest national security threat facing our country is. And there was quite a list. But in terms of the long-term challenge, both agreed it's China.
I – I don't know how to characterize the timeframe. But I would say that's not really the issue, per se. I mean, first of all, I – we're clearly, I think, ahead, simply because they steal our stuff. We're not interested in stealing their stuff. So there's a reason why they want our stuff, because it's better. I think the bigger concern is how it would be utilized.
Well, I don't think it should wait. I just don't think it should be held hostage on the issue of whether or not we're going to deal with our border. Let's vote for it. Let's put up a bill of votes on Taiwan. It doesn't require a lot of funding. That's the existing law of the country. But – but it starts with the executive order, which is what applies our laws, which he refuses to do, because it would require him to admit that Trump was right about the border.
I think you're gritting your teeth through that. Yes. Mm-hmm. So, if President Biden… … essentially mimic remain-in-Mexico, you'd say, fine, here's $60 billion for Ukraine? I think most Americans – and, in fact, polling backs us this – believe that there is an issue that needs to be dealt with in the border. But you are linking them right now. You are.
You, Senator, helped to spearhead an effort with Senator Kaine on a bipartisan basis to prevent any president from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO. … to withdraw from NATO. … rotate into Poland. President Biden reversed that. Welcome back to FACE THE NATION. We continue our conversation with Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Mark Warner and Vice Chair Marco Rubio.
We - we have different - And the idea – if you don't think the Chinese Communist Party can twist that algorithm to make it the news that they see reflective of their views, then I don't think you appreciate the nature of the threat. And would the United States ever allow China to buy CBS? I don't think they would. And we - we might have slightly different ways on how we go at this, but we think this is a national security issue.
Listen, I think there is - I think there's a lot of creativity on TikTok, and I think if they had to discourage , as long as the algorithm moved – if this was a Brazilian company or a French or a Canadian company it wouldn't cause me near the consternation. Can mean what kind of information you're going to see. And if you don't think that could be used as a – the most powerful propaganda tool ever, then I don't think you appreciate that.
Well, we have nation states, China, Iran, Russia, who know that interfering in our elections is both effective and cheap. We have a lot more Americans who have, for a variety of reasons, less trust in any of our institutions, including our voting system. We have a court case that was in the Fifth Circuit that it restricted the voluntary communication between social media and the FBI or SISA. And you have that cauldron of change going on.
And it's not clear how people are supposed to protect themselves against what you just described. Is that sufficient? Good morning. Great to be with you. Well, I travel throughout the country and spend time, of course, in the district that I represent here in Brooklyn, and there is a high degree of enthusiasm for President Joe Biden, and it is growing. President Joe Biden had an incredible State of the Union Address.
Tom Suozzi ran a great campaign. He communicated with voters. He talked about common sense solutions to meeting the challenges that are facing the American people. Now, we believe, as Democrats, that we have a broken immigration system and that we need to address the clear challenges at the border. President Biden has repeatedly made that clear.
Invasion is not a word that I would ever use. I'm not sure whether he used that word or not or in what context. I do know what Tom Suozzi said he believes that we are a nation of immigrants, of course, through his own experience, his grandfather coming over from Italy. At the same period of time, we need to also deal with the challenges that we confront at the border, anchored in the notion that we also are a nation based on the rule of law. And we can and should do both.
And to support our democratic allies in Ukraine and Israel, humanitarian assistance to Palestinian civilians who are in harm's way, support our allies in the Indo-Pacific. That's a question for Mike Johnson, when he knows that the House has the votes to act on America's national security interests. The reason why it's not happening is because there's a pro-Putin faction in the Republican Party, led by Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson, who are blocking this legislation.
And we're joined now by the vice chairman of IBM, Gary Cohn, who also served as former President Trump's top economic adviser in the White House. Welcome back. State and local taxes. Because it could be you're just sitting on assets. But the president is tapping in to at least a perception that wealthy people have far more of an advantage and that corporations are taking advantage of the little guy. I mean he went down to the 10 percent fewer snickers in the bag analogy in his speech.
OK. Yes. So, remember what a tariff is. A tariff is a tax that the importer pays at the border of the United States. That tariff then gets passed on to consumers here in the United States. It is a consumption tax. Now, look, I want to refine that a little bit.
You are paying that as the consumer. No one's absorbing those tariffs except for the ultimate consumer. And - and if you have to buy those goods, you are going to have an inflationary impact on the economy. You know, what's going to happen in taxes by the end of '25? Where are we going to be? That's very important. Energy policy.
Legal - legal immigration. We need skilled laborers in this country. I think based on those policies, that's going to influence the corporate community because those are the factors that really impact how they can run their businesses. Look, I can throw regulation on there. The ability to merge. The ability to consolidate. The ability to buy back stock. All of those things really have dramatic impact on the corporate community and how they look at the campaigns.
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