'Abbott Elementary's Justin Halpern & Patrick Schumacker on Season 2 and Quinta Brunson's 'Harley Quinn' Cameo

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'Abbott Elementary's Justin Halpern & Patrick Schumacker on Season 2 and Quinta Brunson's 'Harley Quinn' Cameo
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Justin Halpern and Patrick Schumacker talk HarleyQuinn's Valentine's Day special, Quinta Brunson's surprise cameo, and tackling the Janine/Gregory romance in AbbottElementary.

Writers and producers Justin Halpern and Patrick Schumacker share credits on two of the most popular television shows right now — but you might not realize it. The longtime creative partners have been steering the ship that is the Harley Quinn animated series for the past three seasons , but they've also been teaming up with creator Quinta Brunson on the smash-hit mockumentary series Abbott Elementary since its premiere on ABC.

SCHUMACKER: It wasn't us actually asking to do it. We had kind of joked around early on about doing a Hanukkah special, because we felt like there aren't a lot of those, and that could be fun. Then years later they were like, "Well, Max is asking for something to tide people over between seasons." It just so happened that the timing of it was somewhere around February. We were like, "Well, if we're going to do a holiday special in February...

HALPERN: Well, there are sort of two answers to that question. We usually try to start, and we do this with Abbott too — the writers are so sick of us saying this, but we always feel like an episode has to be about something. Even if it's something small, there has to be an emotional core to the episode. Otherwise, why are we doing the episode? It's just silly stuff, which is fine, it's just not the way that [Patrick] and I generally like to tell stories.

HALPERN: We definitely wanted this special to exist on its own. That's not to say, though, that thematically things don't carry over in Season 4.HALPERN: Yeah, exactly. That is going to be part of it. We can't have Bane be too happy for too long. Season 4, he is back looking for love. But other than that, no.

SCHUMACKER: I was on set with Tyler, and I was like, "Hey, you want to be Hawkman?" He was like, "Yeah." Speaking of Abbott, I started hearing about the show getting buzz early on, and then all of a sudden it just ballooned. The success feels like something that was almost a little unforeseen but also completely deserved at the same time. When did you guys have that moment of realization that this was something big?

SCHUMACKER: Well, we had already tested the pilot at this point, as you do, before the pickups happen, and this pilot tested very, very well.SCHUMACKER: Tested better than the pilot. I have to circle to the Janine and Gregory of it all because that's a relationship that fans have really glommed onto and moved forward in a big way in the Valentine's episode. I've talked with you guys before about the trajectory of romantic relationships. One thing that is always interesting to me is how shows strike the balance between crafting a friends-to-lovers evolution while not continually contriving reasons to keep them apart.

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